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Saying this now so I can get this through to everyone! We all know how debates work, but are also able to be pulled off so it isn't out of control. Therefore, rules are VITAL for this!!!

When the topic is told to you all, go to the specific side you want to represent. A coin shall be flipped to decide who starts it off. (Or rock, paper, scissors... Or throw dice. Whichever is best.) After it starts, whoever is speaking must be heard and everyone must remain silent! When the person speaking has stopped, someone from the other team must be ready to bring in a point for their's. This will be done with the classic 'hands in the air' approach. One person will be running back and forth from each side and will be responsible for the topic they are 'hosting.' (Whether you make the person speaking hold something to signal they must be heard is up to you; but might make things better.) This includes, confirming who had their hand up first, making sure people are silent so everyone can hear and is confident in introducing and closing the topic they did. If a person has already spoken for their team, they can not speak again till another topic is started. This means everyone is able to have their say. The host will be different for each one as well.
Now because of the current situation we're in, there will be NO YELLING whatsoever. Doing it once will be a warning. Twice... Another warning. Third time, you just gave Kirsty the rights to ship you with anyone and/or anything! (Trust me, no limits there.) A fourth time and I'm sure Alex will want a serious word with you. Talk so everyone can hear you, yes. But don't over do it or we will be told off from the surrounding rooms.

Now then, any questions that you have or anything to add, please say so. (If it's asking what the topics are, Kirsty knows.)
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Wow, sounds kinda dull...

Debates are boring :/
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Thank you Richard, you beat me to posting this. Hope next week goes better than expected. Some other rules.
1. Yaoi cannot win.
2. Yaoi CANNOT win.

savy?
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DOUBLE POST!!! (Points.) Shocked

Still, you know as well as I do that a number of people will disagree with those two rules. Laughing
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Yeh I know, Jami deleted his post trying to make it look like double post ¬_¬ i'll get you for that ya sod lol.
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Alex-J wrote:
Yeh I know, Jami<b>e</b> deleted his post trying to make it look like double post ¬_¬ i'll get you for that ya sod lol.

Wah---? I did what now? O_O

Plus, I spelt my name CORRECTLY for you, Ale (missing off letters from your name, too D: <)


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Still, what you said couldn't be more correct, Alex.

Don't like what we are doing, then don't come on that evening. If we have to put that as an official rule, then so be it.
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iJam wrote:
Alex-J wrote:
Yeh I know, Jami<b>e</b> deleted his post trying to make it look like double post ¬_¬ i'll get you for that ya sod lol.

Wah---? I did what now? O_O

Plus, I spelt my name CORRECTLY for you, Ale (missing off letters from your name, too D: <)

Woops I thought your post was between mine XD damn stupid forum lag ¬_¬
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'R' [TCF Leader] wrote:
Don't like what we are doing, then don't come on that evening. If we have to put that as an official rule, then so be it.

You saw how bad your commanding skills were today, no one's gonna listen....
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What are you on about O_o Debate? we're having a debate? on what?
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KariAlkia wrote:
What are you on about O_o Debate? we're having a debate? on what?
Next week we're having a debate on random topics.... Bore-fest D:

People aren't gonna shut up, it won't work. People are their to socialise their love for anime, they're not gonna shut up so one person can make a weak-willed and misjudged argument on a topic they didn't really want to talk about, anyway O:
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But the club can hardly play a game of musical chairs without all hell breaking loose... how are we going to have a debate ---- debates never lead to anything good T_T
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It's called doing something different. And this is also why I'm putting out rules a whole week in advance. (And printing them out to bring in to the club on the day so no one forgets them.)
Plus it'll also show how many are willing to follow some basic rules and prove they can still have a good time.
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'R' [TCF Leader] wrote:
It's called doing something different. And this is also why I'm putting out rules a whole week in advance. (And printing them out to bring in to the club on the day so no one forgets them.)
Plus it'll also show how many are willing to follow some basic rules and prove they can still have a good time.

Regardless of what you do, it's not gonna work. We're not a quiet group, as you can collectively see with your own eyes.
And with 20-odd people there, it's not gonna be quiet at all, and it'll be awkward with people saying "You go, I don't wanna" or they won't get up at all. That's how it works.

And in case you hadn't remembered, the club rules are hardly ever followed, and we all agreed we would stick to them, and look at us so-so weeks later, no change

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But the club can hardly play a game of musical chairs without all hell breaking loose... how are we going to have a debate ---- debates never lead to anything good T_T

It'll all end in tears
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Wow would you look at that we've begun debateing already XD
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yeah jam-chan is kinda right... we are told club things weeks in advance and it 'still' never goes right... its even worse that we're in the room that echos. And debates are too serious its the last thing people want to do because it will all end up in tears... like i said debates never end well.
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Nanashi wrote:
Wow would you look at that we've begun debateing already XD

Think of this, but with 18 other people nattering away in the background, very loudly, and that's the EXACT scene that will play next week XD

KariAlkia wrote:
yeah jam-chan is kinda right... we are told club things weeks in advance and it 'still' never goes right... its even worse that we're in the room that echos. And debates are too serious its the last thing people want to do because it will all end up in tears... like i said debates never end well.

It's true, it will NOT end well. It never does. Tsk, if only people would listen to me more D:
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LE GASP DOUBLE POST XD


XD lol you changed it just in time
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You only get to talk once per topic?

How are you expected to counter-argue when somebody attacks what you said?

That rule pretty much neuters any hope at a debate -.-
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i'll imagine that and people trying to punch everyones face in XD YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME *attacks*
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Tom ^^ wrote:
You only get to talk once per topic?

How are you expected to counter-argue when somebody attacks what you said?

That rule pretty much neuters any hope at a debate -.-


LOL so true XD
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Nanashi wrote:
i'll imagine that and people trying to punch everyones face in XD YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME *attacks*

That'll happen! I can see it now *visions of flamed-torched buildings and lava flow in the streets of chaos*

Tom ^^ wrote:
You only get to talk once per topic?

How are you expected to counter-argue when somebody attacks what you said?

That rule pretty much neuters any hope at a debate -.-

Lol, true. You'll have to whisper it to the next person up!!!
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what if the person on your team doesnt share your opinion? or hasnt heard of what youre ment to be debating about?
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KariAlkia wrote:
what if the person on your team doesnt share your opinion? or hasnt heard of what youre ment to be debating about?

Then they're on the wrong side XD
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Surely it'd be better to have one speaker from each side who can talk freely (but not over the other group's speaker) and then just apply the 'hands up' rule to anyone else who wants to chime in, then just cycle the speaker every 5 minutes or something.

If it's just a debating free-for-all then the structure of the debate will be lost in the sheer volume of people speaking and it'll devolve into chaos.


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